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09-01-2019 09:59 AM
LAC Sky
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Originally Posted by Rockchops View Post
I did use a rare earth magnet in the solenoid passages and also fished it down into the pan. Nothing at all, not even shavings. The material I found on the solenoid is non-ferrous anyways, but no shavings, which is good. I flushed the system with oil and found nothing else. I need to cut open the filter but I suspect more and more it is old damage from previous owner rather than recent work.

I am not sure what removing the intake manifold would have done except allow to inspect intake valves, which I suppose wouldnt hurt considering it is probably due for a media blast, but I think is overkill for the sole purpose of a crank sensor.

If the engine is gone I will probably just swap in a fresh LNF or newer ecotec and go from there. My plans with this car was originally to mod it fairly heavily but never got there with it since this was my DD for a while.

Unfortunately time is always limited, I took last monday and yesterday off to work on it. I travel quite a bit and also have a lot of stuff going on at work -- it is also a lot of fun and very rewarding so I am not at a total loss here. I also do not really drive anywhere anymore so this is a fun car, not DD. It looks worse than it is -- aluminum is crusty and everything else is pretty dusty. The surface rust on things like bolts has been there since I got it, as it was a beach car.
The good the bad and the extremely ugly...
The triple option for any owner..

The good.. Finding no other chucks of metal in the block anywhere is a good thing for you, and the engine.
I was unsure you had in fact used the magnet to remove anything else that might have been in there.
SO far so good. Old damage from the previous owner..
I wonder what did happen to cause this, and why did the previous owner not take care of it, before you bought it?
Lack of commitment on his part.

Yes removing the IM would have been over kill for just the crank sensor replacement, I agree. Why do it in the first place, IF it is
not needed in this instance. However now might be the time to do it. Mileage count on the odometer?
With the engine down somewhat and not being the DD a good close inspection of the rockers, intake valves since the factory.
BUT... if you plan to replace this motor with a new Ecotec in the future, why bother with the extra hassle of removing the IM.
It is a time consuming job on this motor.

The bad.. taking time off from work, to work on your car, a non DD as of now. Yup always fun to answer to the boss,
I HAD to fix it, but I found it very rewarding, fun in the short term, and time working on the car, beats working on anything
at work any day imo. Travel gets in the way of everything, hence the term... Time management.
SO much to do, so little time for everything. Many an owner has been faced with this dilemma more than once.

The ugly.. nah we're not busting your chops here on the current condition of the engine bay. Well maybe just a bit.
Happens. Not driving anywhere anymore or less than you use to, I know the feeling. I rarely drive anywhere that much either.
Even though my Sky is my DD. Less wear and tear is a good thing.
Surface grime can be removed, maybe not rewarding but fun seeing the before and after results of your hard work,
on your day off from work.
It's just dust... leaf blower the motor compartment, no more dust. Problem solved more or less.
Rust, so long as it is non cancer-ish to vital parts then it can be removed, with work on your part.
Maybe not as demanding as the job, in this case. It was a beach car.. that explains it.
Salt corrosion can be deadly to a lot of things in cars. Catch it quick before it spreads.

* I did get in a nice cruise to the race track yesterday. Left at 10am, got back at 8pm.
Long day, lot of fun. Cool day low humidity around here clear blue skies for most of the day.
The Kappa did attract some... attention in my travels yesterday.
Lot of cars about and out on Labor Day weekend. 36 roadster, with a blower. 66 Mustang in near perfect condition.
911's.. a pack of them 5-8 running the other way on Rt 480.
A 1919 something with wood wheels... leaving the track.
The drive home in fading light, top down cool evening as I got close to home. A touch of Fall is in the air
around here. Trying to get in as much time ( time management again here ) with the top down.
Hope to do at least another Go-Pro run or two before things get a little chilly around here.
U-Tube posting soon gang. Safe holiday weekend to you all. Watch the crazies out there, and the police
too as fines, tend to increase on a holiday weekend.

LAC
08-31-2019 11:57 AM
Rockchops
Quote:
Originally Posted by LAC Sky View Post
since work is crushing me.... Working around that problem first leaves little time for

the hard stuff, the PITA work... to be done.



After seeing the metal shavings, err chunks attached to the old solenoids, maybe the IM should have come off

and the magnet should have been used. Changing out the oil & filter gets the smallish stuff, but bigger stuff remains

hidden from view. Not running for a year.... so that explains the condition of the engine bay shots. I believe you...

dear god, downtown Bagdad doesn't look that bad.



I hope you get back to running shape. These fixes might help the short term, but IF the motor is on it's last legs, do you

plan to rebuild/replace it? Would this then be a candidate for a swap?



LAC
I did use a rare earth magnet in the solenoid passages and also fished it down into the pan. Nothing at all, not even shavings. The material I found on the solenoid is non-ferrous anyways, but no shavings, which is good. I flushed the system with oil and found nothing else. I need to cut open the filter but I suspect more and more it is old damage from previous owner rather than recent work.

I am not sure what removing the intake manifold would have done except allow to inspect intake valves, which I suppose wouldnt hurt considering it is probably due for a media blast, but I think is overkill for the sole purpose of a crank sensor.

If the engine is gone I will probably just swap in a fresh LNF or newer ecotec and go from there. My plans with this car was originally to mod it fairly heavily but never got there with it since this was my DD for a while.

Unfortunately time is always limited, I took last monday and yesterday off to work on it. I travel quite a bit and also have a lot of stuff going on at work -- it is also a lot of fun and very rewarding so I am not at a total loss here. I also do not really drive anywhere anymore so this is a fun car, not DD. It looks worse than it is -- aluminum is crusty and everything else is pretty dusty. The surface rust on things like bolts has been there since I got it, as it was a beach car.
08-31-2019 07:50 AM
LAC Sky since work is crushing me.... Working around that problem first leaves little time for
the hard stuff, the PITA work... to be done.

After seeing the metal shavings, err chunks attached to the old solenoids, maybe the IM should have come off
and the magnet should have been used. Changing out the oil & filter gets the smallish stuff, but bigger stuff remains
hidden from view. Not running for a year.... so that explains the condition of the engine bay shots. I believe you...
dear god, downtown Bagdad doesn't look that bad.

I hope you get back to running shape. These fixes might help the short term, but IF the motor is on it's last legs, do you
plan to rebuild/replace it? Would this then be a candidate for a swap?

LAC
08-30-2019 08:15 PM
Rockchops
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Pilot View Post
Wow, that one crusty alternator... actually it's crusty all over



Yeah its a mess. Like I said, been sitting for a year. First I need to get it running, then I can make it pretty again.
08-30-2019 03:54 PM
Sky_Pilot Wow, that one crusty alternator... actually it's crusty all over

08-30-2019 02:29 PM
Rockchops Just changed the crank sensor. What a PITA. FSM calls for full removal of intake manifold. I was able to take the tubes up to the manifold off and weasel a ratchet with 6 inch extension in there. Not a job for small hands...if you have bigger clumsy hands like me, youll lose a couple layers of skin...but it beats removing the IM.

Couldnt get good pics. This post mainly for those searching how to remove the crank sensor. It is possible without removing the IM or starter motor...but still not a fun job.

I need to get everything back together, going to flush the engine oil, new filter, and see what happens. If i still get codes I am going to have to fully retime again.
08-29-2019 09:30 PM
Rockchops
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Originally Posted by The_Ghost View Post
How long ago was your oil changed? Was it really low? Has the car sat for years? I don't see any oil on those solenoids and usually it's like your dipstick, it's usually running off of them. Personally it doesn't look like those were ever in your engine. There is no oil on the inside of the screen either, which is odd.
The oil was changed every 5k or so, always mobil 1 5w-30 synthetic. I got the car at 53k, not sure before then, but I never got it low. It was sitting for a year but I primed it (fresh oil and filter) before starting, cranking and pulling the FP fuse to prevent it from firing up and circulating everything. The solenoid doesnt have oil on it because I took it out of the car, drained it, and took the pic inside my house. It was dripping when I took it out. I did replace it with a brand new one as well. I am now thinking I should have taken a magnet and stuck it down the receptacle to get any shards still left down there, Ill do that tomorrow morning. Didnt get to it today since work is crushing me.

edit: to your point, probably best idea to give the new ones an oil bath before installing, ill do that while taking the VC off etc...
08-29-2019 08:31 PM
The_Ghost How long ago was your oil changed? Was it really low? Has the car sat for years? I don't see any oil on those solenoids and usually it's like your dipstick, it's usually running off of them. Personally it doesn't look like those were ever in your engine. There is no oil on the inside of the screen either, which is odd.
08-29-2019 05:23 PM
Robotech
Quote:
Originally Posted by Armando Saucedo View Post
Hello guys, i was wondering if anyone could help me with my issue.
Ive already i stalled new ECM & TCM i also had my transmission control module programmed from the dealer & the ECM as well. My camshaft position sensors are new as well. Problem is when i floor the car nothing happens but when i lightly press the gas the car goes. It takes me about 1 min -3 min to reach 65mph (texas highway speed). I also feel a thrust in the transmission drive shaft area when im at idle
I would suggest making a new topic for this one so we don't clutter this one up. Plus you will have more attention to it that way. Off the top of my head though, almost sounds like the pedal issue is a pedal re-learn kind of deal. Don't know if we have that ability or necessity but that's what it sounds like. Please make a new topic and we can continue this conversation there.
08-29-2019 04:41 PM
TomatoSoup Yeah - the great thing about our oil filters is that it's really easy to inspect them for unwanted debris!
08-29-2019 04:27 PM
Rockchops
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amorget View Post
It looks like a bearing type material to me... crazy.



Have you checked your oil filter?
That was my first thought too...car has never run low on oil or anything either, so really odd. I am going to change the filter and flush everything I can today. Maybe old debris from previous owner? I can hope...
08-29-2019 03:20 PM
Armando Saucedo
No throttle response.

Hello guys, i was wondering if anyone could help me with my issue.
Ive already i stalled new ECM & TCM i also had my transmission control module programmed from the dealer & the ECM as well. My camshaft position sensors are new as well. Problem is when i floor the car nothing happens but when i lightly press the gas the car goes. It takes me about 1 min -3 min to reach 65mph (texas highway speed). I also feel a thrust in the transmission drive shaft area when im at idle
08-29-2019 03:05 PM
Amorget It looks like a bearing type material to me... crazy.

Have you checked your oil filter?
08-29-2019 01:31 PM
Robotech Yea, those are BIG pieces. Yikes.

Oh well...SEND IT! LOL
08-28-2019 10:14 PM
TomatoSoup Oh bugger.
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