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11-03-2016 11:34 AM
RickyD
I have a brand new 2.4 CAT in the box

If any body is interested I'm asking $175 plus shipping.
10-28-2015 03:04 PM
ThreeFiddy
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Originally Posted by Robotech View Post
If your cat was clogged, you could see a reduction of power but usually you'll throw a CEL.
I see gochu
10-28-2015 12:34 PM
Robotech If your cat was clogged, you could see a reduction of power but usually you'll throw a CEL.
10-28-2015 02:44 AM
ThreeFiddy are they still doing this my vin is in there, im not getting any malfunction on the indicator lamp , but i feel that there is a lack of engine power tho..
09-09-2015 05:54 PM
HUNTERANGEL121
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Originally Posted by Robotech View Post
Maybe. IF both O2 sensors are operating properly then it probably is a bad catalytic converter, yes.
Thanks, I'll have to test them this weekend then.
09-09-2015 04:53 PM
Robotech
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Originally Posted by HUNTERANGEL121 View Post
This applies for the p0420 Cel?
Maybe. IF both O2 sensors are operating properly then it probably is a bad catalytic converter, yes.
09-09-2015 12:45 PM
HUNTERANGEL121 This applies for the p0420 Cel?
08-30-2015 10:28 PM
44thSKY
First KAPPA's production, FOUND

I realize this topic is off subject for this tread, so I will start a new thread with the topic on the 'dates of the first Kappa production'.
08-29-2015 08:24 PM
DaveOC
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Dave, BINGO.
What a link and what a spreadsheet!! Must represent a ton of work on each of your parts, you and Reed. I have seen those numbers before, but never with the monthly breakouts. That's now in my smartphone's email, forever in my pocket. Thx
5 minutes per month on old GM's website. New GM does not publish this info, I don't think.
08-29-2015 01:39 PM
44thSKY
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But we know exactly how many were made each year, at least what GM published for stockholder's interests.

reedred (on this forum) and I (on the Solstice forum), tracked production numbers each month after GM published the monthly numbers.

Reed put it together into a spreadsheet, by model year production by month, and published it here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...b?output=html#
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Dave, BINGO.
What a link and what a spreadsheet!! Must represent a ton of work on each of your parts, you and Reed. I have seen those numbers before, but never with the monthly breakouts. That's now in my smartphone's email, forever in my pocket. Thx
08-29-2015 09:47 AM
DaveOC
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Originally Posted by skybus View Post
3) following were Solstice ~6Y100701 and up began again for an unknown number of units.

Yes, this topic can be confusing!
But we know exactly how many were made each year, at least what GM published for stockholder's interests.

reedred (on this forum) and I (on the Solstice forum), tracked production numbers each month after GM published the monthly numbers.

Reed put it together into a spreadsheet, by model year production by month, and published it here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...b?output=html#

For what it is worth, I was tracking Solstices, Skys, Corvettes and XLRs. Reed was tracking Solstices, Skys and Opel GTs. Despite our tracking them slightly differently, in the end our numbers agreed, identically.

Have fun.



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08-29-2015 01:52 AM
44thSKY
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Here is where the importance of the Model year part of the code comes in.

The March 2005 production was 6Y1000xx and you are comparing those numbers to the 7Y100xxx Sky numbers. Different model years are involved here.

The last 6 of the VIN are started over at 100001 with EACH MODEL YEAR. This is why you need to use the last 8 of the VIN.

The last 8 of any GM VIN are a unique identifier that will only reference a single GM car. The last 6 of the VIN are useless without the model year and plant identifier.

As a side note all 6Yxxxxxx cars are Solstice LE5s. There were no LNFs made until mid-model year 7Yxxxxxx. There were no Skys made with 6Yxxxxxx, as all Skys were 7Yxxxxxx and up.
Dave, I see your point and I agree that eight (8) characters must be used. So, in looking back at my search of those missing five numbers in December 2005, I was using 6Y1000xx and finding a March/April 2005 manuf. dates. To find those missing units for 12/05 of my search, I must use 7Y1000xx. My attempts with those changes have not produced those units, so stumped on finding those for now.

I also note you state each model year's production starts with 100001, etc. Somehow, I had thought that was not happening, so i stand corrected on that important point. Thx

Also, in reviewing your previous posts, I believe I understand production went something like this:
1) the first Solstice cars 6Y100001~6Y100700 were produced starting around approx March 2005.
2) then promotion cars 6Y000001~6Y001000 were produced and spoken for in a 41 minute sell out.
3) following were Solstice ~6Y100701 and up began again for an unknown number of units.

Yes, this topic can be confusing!
08-28-2015 10:38 PM
DaveOC
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3) VIN's 100008-100011-100025-100039-100042 (again, Solstices) were all produced in a March 22 through April 12, 2005 time frame. I found the records for each of those numbers to be Solstice convertibles. Interesting those numbers were used 8-9 months earlier in Solstice production, while the majority of the numbers in the group were assigned to SKY production which was only planned to start some 8 months later (Dec 6 through Dec 16, 2005).
Here is where the importance of the Model year part of the code comes in.

The March 2005 production was 6Y1000xx and you are comparing those numbers to the 7Y100xxx Sky numbers. Different model years are involved here.

The last 6 of the VIN are started over at 100001 with EACH MODEL YEAR. This is why you need to use the last 8 of the VIN.

The last 8 of any GM VIN are a unique identifier that will only reference a single GM car. The last 6 of the VIN are useless without the model year and plant identifier.

As a side note all 6Yxxxxxx cars are Solstice LE5s. There were no LNFs made until mid-model year 7Yxxxxxx. There were no Skys made with 6Yxxxxxx, as all Skys were 7Yxxxxxx and up.
08-28-2015 04:22 PM
44thSKY
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In reference to 'mixing the Solstice and SKY VIN's as the units came off the line', I had heard that too. So if that is what happened, then when the SKY production started, VIN numbers for both cars must have started from '0'. This would explain how SKY VIN's exceed the reported total overall production number.

I'll add, I have searched all 50 of the SKY's initial production and printed out the record on every one of those units. There are five SKY units missing in the first 44 accounted for that preceed my VIN number (8-11-25-39-42). Could this mean those VIN's were 2007 Solstice production? Meaning that in initial SKY production, VIN numbers started from zero (0) again for Solstice. and missing numbers were for Solstice. ??maybe??
Further research has found very interesting facts about VIN numbering, but is only just for all of our understanding. Nothing changes, but some of the facts are interesting. I'll list my conclusions as I see them.
1) VIN numbers missing in my previous searches (numbers listed above) do exist and all numbers are Solstice's with LE5 engines.
2) Of the first SKY's produced (actually I only searched the first 44), they were all produced in the 2nd and 3rd week of Dec 2005.
3) VIN's 100008-100011-100025-100039-100042 (again, Solstices) were all produced in a March 22 through April 12, 2005 time frame. I found the records for each of those numbers to be Solstice convertibles. Interesting those numbers were used 8-9 months earlier in Solstice production, while the majority of the numbers in the group were assigned to SKY production which was only planned to start some 8 months later (Dec 6 through Dec 16, 2005).
4) On the subject of the VIN numbers beginning with a '0' and producing the first 1,000 Solstices, the VIN search this morning of 000144, found it's production date is claimed to be 2005-08-03! And, I do NOT see a possible reading of the date as 03-08-2005. There is no mistake there, I believe.
5) DaveOC's Solstice manufacture date of 2005-08-26 for unit 000741 seems a lot of units were produced over that 3 weeks (from unit 000144 on 2005-08-03), but with the mystique around this subject it seems anything is possible.

Not knowing these cars would end up limited production, probably no one ever thought there would ever be a question come up about production sequence. And I'd agree, it would NOT have. But now we know, production ceased after 3-4 years. Maybe just further gibberish about VIN numbering and only of interest to a few of us, but I obviously have an interest.
08-28-2015 11:39 AM
44thSKY
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Originally Posted by DaveOC View Post
There is a reason I used Last 8.

Solstice Production for the 06 model year ended sometime in June, 2006. At that time, the last 8 of the VIN#s changed for the Solstices from 6Y1xxxxx to 7Y1xxxxx.

Sky production started in December, 2005 as an 2007 Model Year Vehicle with VINs ending in 7Y1xxxxx.

From December, 2005, to the Solstice Model Year Changeover in June, 2006, Solstice VINs 6Y1xxxxx and Sky VINs 7Y1xxxxx were intermixed coming off the line.

After the model year changeover, both the Solstices and Skys were using the VINs ending in 7Y1xxxxx

The only vehicles with a VIN ending in 6Y0xxxxx were the "First 1000" Pontiac Solstice promotion cars. The very first Solstice pre-production VINs ended in 6Y100001 through approx 6Y100700 (approximately), then came 6Y000001 through 6Y001000, then the regular sequence resumed with 6Y100701 (approximately). I say approximately because no one was ever quite sure where that break occurred, or at least it has never been documented.

Each model years sequence started with a "1" following the "Y".
Just wanted to post further discussion to the VIN number process that supports what DaveOC has been sharing, and confirm that DaveOC has it exactly correct as I see it.

There is another post this morning referencing a 'first 1000' Solstice for sale. I followed up on that sale listing and found an apparently really good Solstice which is #000144 of all Kappa's manufactured (I believe this is a fact).

At $8500 asking with 33,000 miles and photos looking pretty good, someone may find a nice car.

2006 pontiac solstice

The sales rep seemed very strong on their need to sell the car before winter, as they are located some 130 miles North of Madison, WI.
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