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Not to split hairs (not)...we realize that GM is the company name...but if I recall when we visited the plant, they had a 40s Pontiac in their entrance...they gave us a history of the plant itself but it is so long ago.
OK, back in the dark ages, pre-1965, Wilmington was a Buick-Oldsmobile-Pontiac Assembly Division plant.

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An early SKY build

As this early build subject has been a part of this thread of late, I would like to post for the record a couple of photos of our early build SKY.

Without being too redundant, research has shown SKY #100044 was born on 12/16/2005 and was put in service by a GM executive on 1/19/2006. The PEP program got the car and a GM engineer (known to me) drove the car through 8600+ miles, and then sold it to a Wisconsin individual who then moved to Arizona. I purchased the car from that Arizona individual in Nov 2011.

The car had 20K miles when I purchased it, and it now has just under 32K miles. Due to age of the tires and battery, both have been changed. As an LE5, a Redline exhaust was added plus a 1 inch, bolt on, receiver hitch 'so my wife can bring her purse' along. There are no bumps, blems or scrapes on the car. The paint is perfect. We drive it about every two weeks. It sits in the garage covered about 90% of the time. The passenger air bag has the lamp issue, but my GM Saturn certified auto shop tells me the air bag is in working order.

It drives like a new car and gets just tons of attention. We will never part with it!
 

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There is a reason I used Last 8.

Solstice Production for the 06 model year ended sometime in June, 2006. At that time, the last 8 of the VIN#s changed for the Solstices from 6Y1xxxxx to 7Y1xxxxx.

Sky production started in December, 2005 as an 2007 Model Year Vehicle with VINs ending in 7Y1xxxxx.

From December, 2005, to the Solstice Model Year Changeover in June, 2006, Solstice VINs 6Y1xxxxx and Sky VINs 7Y1xxxxx were intermixed coming off the line.

After the model year changeover, both the Solstices and Skys were using the VINs ending in 7Y1xxxxx

The only vehicles with a VIN ending in 6Y0xxxxx were the "First 1000" Pontiac Solstice promotion cars. The very first Solstice pre-production VINs ended in 6Y100001 through approx 6Y100700 (approximately), then came 6Y000001 through 6Y001000, then the regular sequence resumed with 6Y100701 (approximately). I say approximately because no one was ever quite sure where that break occurred, or at least it has never been documented.

Each model years sequence started with a "1" following the "Y".
Just wanted to post further discussion to the VIN number process that supports what DaveOC has been sharing, and confirm that DaveOC has it exactly correct as I see it.

There is another post this morning referencing a 'first 1000' Solstice for sale. I followed up on that sale listing and found an apparently really good Solstice which is #000144 of all Kappa's manufactured (I believe this is a fact).

At $8500 asking with 33,000 miles and photos looking pretty good, someone may find a nice car.

2006 pontiac solstice

The sales rep seemed very strong on their need to sell the car before winter, as they are located some 130 miles North of Madison, WI.
 

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In reference to 'mixing the Solstice and SKY VIN's as the units came off the line', I had heard that too. So if that is what happened, then when the SKY production started, VIN numbers for both cars must have started from '0'. This would explain how SKY VIN's exceed the reported total overall production number.

I'll add, I have searched all 50 of the SKY's initial production and printed out the record on every one of those units. There are five SKY units missing in the first 44 accounted for that preceed my VIN number (8-11-25-39-42). Could this mean those VIN's were 2007 Solstice production? Meaning that in initial SKY production, VIN numbers started from zero (0) again for Solstice. and missing numbers were for Solstice. ??maybe??
Further research has found very interesting facts about VIN numbering, but is only just for all of our understanding. Nothing changes, but some of the facts are interesting. I'll list my conclusions as I see them.
1) VIN numbers missing in my previous searches (numbers listed above) do exist and all numbers are Solstice's with LE5 engines.
2) Of the first SKY's produced (actually I only searched the first 44), they were all produced in the 2nd and 3rd week of Dec 2005.
3) VIN's 100008-100011-100025-100039-100042 (again, Solstices) were all produced in a March 22 through April 12, 2005 time frame. I found the records for each of those numbers to be Solstice convertibles. Interesting those numbers were used 8-9 months earlier in Solstice production, while the majority of the numbers in the group were assigned to SKY production which was only planned to start some 8 months later (Dec 6 through Dec 16, 2005).
4) On the subject of the VIN numbers beginning with a '0' and producing the first 1,000 Solstices, the VIN search this morning of 000144, found it's production date is claimed to be 2005-08-03! And, I do NOT see a possible reading of the date as 03-08-2005. There is no mistake there, I believe.
5) DaveOC's Solstice manufacture date of 2005-08-26 for unit 000741 seems a lot of units were produced over that 3 weeks (from unit 000144 on 2005-08-03), but with the mystique around this subject it seems anything is possible.

Not knowing these cars would end up limited production, probably no one ever thought there would ever be a question come up about production sequence. And I'd agree, it would NOT have. But now we know, production ceased after 3-4 years. Maybe just further gibberish about VIN numbering and only of interest to a few of us, but I obviously have an interest.:willy:
 

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3) VIN's 100008-100011-100025-100039-100042 (again, Solstices) were all produced in a March 22 through April 12, 2005 time frame. I found the records for each of those numbers to be Solstice convertibles. Interesting those numbers were used 8-9 months earlier in Solstice production, while the majority of the numbers in the group were assigned to SKY production which was only planned to start some 8 months later (Dec 6 through Dec 16, 2005).
Here is where the importance of the Model year part of the code comes in.

The March 2005 production was 6Y1000xx and you are comparing those numbers to the 7Y100xxx Sky numbers. Different model years are involved here.

The last 6 of the VIN are started over at 100001 with EACH MODEL YEAR. This is why you need to use the last 8 of the VIN.

The last 8 of any GM VIN are a unique identifier that will only reference a single GM car. The last 6 of the VIN are useless without the model year and plant identifier.

As a side note all 6Yxxxxxx cars are Solstice LE5s. There were no LNFs made until mid-model year 7Yxxxxxx. There were no Skys made with 6Yxxxxxx, as all Skys were 7Yxxxxxx and up.
 

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Here is where the importance of the Model year part of the code comes in.

The March 2005 production was 6Y1000xx and you are comparing those numbers to the 7Y100xxx Sky numbers. Different model years are involved here.

The last 6 of the VIN are started over at 100001 with EACH MODEL YEAR. This is why you need to use the last 8 of the VIN.

The last 8 of any GM VIN are a unique identifier that will only reference a single GM car. The last 6 of the VIN are useless without the model year and plant identifier.

As a side note all 6Yxxxxxx cars are Solstice LE5s. There were no LNFs made until mid-model year 7Yxxxxxx. There were no Skys made with 6Yxxxxxx, as all Skys were 7Yxxxxxx and up.
Dave, I see your point and I agree that eight (8) characters must be used. So, in looking back at my search of those missing five numbers in December 2005, I was using 6Y1000xx and finding a March/April 2005 manuf. dates. To find those missing units for 12/05 of my search, I must use 7Y1000xx. My attempts with those changes have not produced those units, so stumped on finding those for now.

I also note you state each model year's production starts with 100001, etc. Somehow, I had thought that was not happening, so i stand corrected on that important point. Thx

Also, in reviewing your previous posts, I believe I understand production went something like this:
1) the first Solstice cars 6Y100001~6Y100700 were produced starting around approx March 2005.
2) then promotion cars 6Y000001~6Y001000 were produced and spoken for in a 41 minute sell out.
3) following were Solstice ~6Y100701 and up began again for an unknown number of units.

Yes, this topic can be confusing! :banghead:
 

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3) following were Solstice ~6Y100701 and up began again for an unknown number of units.

Yes, this topic can be confusing! :banghead:
But we know exactly how many were made each year, at least what GM published for stockholder's interests.

reedred (on this forum) and I (on the Solstice forum), tracked production numbers each month after GM published the monthly numbers.

Reed put it together into a spreadsheet, by model year production by month, and published it here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ctLZRu4tj5e6XOzMJd6_3d20D4D5RrdL6bu85R4_qtE/pub?output=html#

For what it is worth, I was tracking Solstices, Skys, Corvettes and XLRs. Reed was tracking Solstices, Skys and Opel GTs. Despite our tracking them slightly differently, in the end our numbers agreed, identically.

Have fun.

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But we know exactly how many were made each year, at least what GM published for stockholder's interests.

reedred (on this forum) and I (on the Solstice forum), tracked production numbers each month after GM published the monthly numbers.

Reed put it together into a spreadsheet, by model year production by month, and published it here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ctLZRu4tj5e6XOzMJd6_3d20D4D5RrdL6bu85R4_qtE/pub?output=html#
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Dave, BINGO.
What a link and what a spreadsheet!! Must represent a ton of work on each of your parts, you and Reed. I have seen those numbers before, but never with the monthly breakouts. That's now in my smartphone's email, forever in my pocket. Thx
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Dave, BINGO.
What a link and what a spreadsheet!! Must represent a ton of work on each of your parts, you and Reed. I have seen those numbers before, but never with the monthly breakouts. That's now in my smartphone's email, forever in my pocket. Thx
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5 minutes per month on old GM's website. New GM does not publish this info, I don't think.
 

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First KAPPA's production, FOUND

I realize this topic is off subject for this tread, so I will start a new thread with the topic on the 'dates of the first Kappa production'.
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are they still doing this my vin is in there, im not getting any malfunction on the indicator lamp , but i feel that there is a lack of engine power tho..
 

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I have a brand new 2.4 CAT in the box

If any body is interested I'm asking $175 plus shipping.
 
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