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Is there a deadline on the recall? My passenger seat switch is still working and I am scared to death they will screw something up if I go in for the recall.:willy::willy:
 

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Technically, the statute of limitations has already expired, since it is 10 (or maybe 8) years from the original date of sale of the vehicle.

A recall also effectively expires when there are no longer any repair parts available.

Do you expect to be less scared later?
 

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Technically, the statute of limitations has already expired, since it is 10 (or maybe 8) years from the original date of sale of the vehicle.

A recall also effectively expires when there are no longer any repair parts available.

Do you expect to be less scared later?
i am not familiar with a PASSENGER SEAT switch...what r we talking about? The only switch that I know of is the drivers' side height adjustment switch.
 

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I assumed he is referring to the airbag Passenger Presence Sensor. Not really a switch, but close enough.
 

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Whether my fear of malpractice will be more or less in the future is not the issue. My concern is that there is a risk of malpractice and right now the sensor is working. Will the piece of tape make it better or will the possible malpractice be worse than the cure that I dont need.....yet.:willy::willy:
 

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Here is my take on it...

If your pad is working, the dealer will add the reinforced tape to the existing mat. This shouldn't cause any issues unless they mess up the lower seat cushion while removing/reinstalling it.

IF your current mat is damaged but still working, the tape doesn't guarantee that the mat will not fail in the future (technically even a new mat with the tape installed doesn't guarantee that) but it certainly won't make it fail sooner. Unfortunately there is no way to tell if your current working mat is damaged without destroying the mat.

I believe the recall repair has a 1 year warranty meaning if the sensor does fail within a year of you getting the tape added to your working mat, you'll get a replacement mat with the tap already added. EDIT: I just verified this is the case.

The only reason you might want to wait is to hope the sensor mat fails so you get a new mat with the tape rather than taping your current working (but possibly already damaged) mat. I was fortunate my working mat failed after the recall went into effect but before I had gone in for the fix.
 

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The only reason you might want to wait is to hope the sensor mat fails so you get a new mat with the tape rather than taping your current working (but possibly already damaged) mat. I was fortunate my working mat failed after the recall went into effect but before I had gone in for the fix.
Yes, that is exactly why I was wondering how long. If I wait till it fails....and that is after they no longer have parts...I am SOL. Its a hard decision after hearing details of crap that happens in dealerships that no longer really care because the car is no longer sold.:cheers:
 

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Interesting tidbit I found...Quarterly report filed by GM April 11, 2019 on how many cars have been serviced.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RCLQRT-17V061-0257.PDF

Just over a third apparently.

A recall doesn't have a specific expiration date but if the company goes out of business (GM in this case) or they run out of parts the recall is pretty much over. So there is an expiration, but not a specific date.

Really up to you but the options, as I see them, are do nothing and hope if/when it fails parts are still available for the recall, get the recall done now and if it fails in the next year that there are still parts available, or fix it now and if it breaks after a year deal with having to pay for a replacent if one is available.
 

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For what it's worth the repair didn't take any longer than it would for an oil change. Not a big deal. More time has been spilled on this thread then it takes to make the fix.
 

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For what it's worth the repair didn't take any longer than it would for an oil change. Not a big deal. More time has been spilled on this thread then it takes to make the fix.
Not sure how you can say that. I have read threads here of people who have had to make multiple trips, leave the car for 1/2 day or all day. First trip was to get it diagnosed and parts ordered 2nd was to get it fixed. Since some dealers are busy it's not like you drive up they order parts and you leave. You drop car off, wait an hour or so till they get to your car and diagnose then find they have to order the parts, order the parts then give you the car back and say come back in xx weeks when the parts are in.

An oil change, drive car on ramps climb under remove bolt swap filter, go inside have a beer, come out put bolt in, fill with oil drive off ramps, put ramps away.

One seems much more time consuming then the other, but its just me.

Oh and for the record have not gotten the seat fix done on our car either.
 

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Must be that my dealership (Wally Edgar) has me trained well??? I called about the recall over the phone, they ordered the part, contacted me when the part was in and then I scheduled a service time. Took my wife's Equinox over at the same time and had both the recall AND the oil change done. Both were done in about 45 minutes.
 

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Must be that my dealership (Wally Edgar) has me trained well??? I called about the recall over the phone, they ordered the part, contacted me when the part was in and then I scheduled a service time. Took my wife's Equinox over at the same time and had both the recall AND the oil change done. Both were done in about 45 minutes.
You have your dealership trained well. LOL

The procedure is supposed to be make an appointment, have the dealer determine if the seat sensor is operational or not. If it's operational, they just order the tape to put on the existing sensor. If it's not, they order a new sensor mat and the tape. You then come back when the parts arrive and generally it takes a couple hours to have the repair done.

Obviously the size of the dealership and it's service traffic will vary the repair time.
 

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I was fortunate my working mat failed after the recall went into effect but before I had gone in for the fix.
Did you have to jump up and down on it, or was just standing on it sufficient.....>:)
 

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My dealer makes sure that they have the tape ready for when they make the initial appointment, apparently since they know that they are going to need it in any case, and there is not a supply limitation for it. I assume that GM ordered enough for every car, plus some overage for errors.

If the sensor is working, they pull the seat, apply the tape, reassemble everything and you are done. 45 minutes sounds about right.

If the sensor is not working they order the new one and make a second appointment when they have it in hand. That change can also take about 45 minutes.
 

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When I started the thread, it was not about how long it takes, it was about the collateral damage and the wisdom of fixing something that wasnt broken.
 

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If it isn't broken they won't be fixing anything. What they will be doing is installing protection to make it less likely to break in the future.
 

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Did you have to jump up and down on it, or was just standing on it sufficient.....>:)
I can neither confirm nor deny that any such activity or activities took place...


Well, actually, I had swapped seats because I was getting my stock seats recovered in the orange/black covers. The temporary seats had a bad sensor so I took it in with those seats. When I was getting my seats back, I had them wait on assembling the passenger lower cushion until I was there and we swapped the new lower cushion in the loaner seat into the new seat cover that had been made using my old seats.

When I started the thread, it was not about how long it takes, it was about the collateral damage and the wisdom of fixing something that wasnt broken.
Technically, you may have a damaged but functional sensor mat. If it is still working, the tape application will lengthen its life. However, my thinking is that if the mat has already started to tear, it will eventually fail tape or no tape. Unfortunately you cannot have them replace a working mat, only a failed one.

Looking through the documents on the recall last night I noticed that earlier remedies mentioned a "damaged or non-functioning" sensor mat while revised remedies now say a "non-functioning" sensor mat. Looks like GM figured out a mat could be damaged but functioning and the only way to inspect that would be to take the mat apart and check the 3D matrix itself for tears at which time the mat would not be able to be reassembled properly at a dealership. LOL
 
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