NOT ENOUGH!:banghead:
How many SKY Red Line's / GXP's will be produced this year ?
Assuming that there will be 10,000 SKY's manufactured for the current year (2007 model year), does anyone have good information on how many SKY Red Line's will be available this year ? (or at least a well-educated guess ?) For comparison (and as a sanity check), has anyone heard how many base Solstice and GXP versions will be produced this year ? Thanks.
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Early numbers from December was that the production would produce 33,000 units (Saturns and Pontiacs) in the first 12 months of operation. This means up until the coming July 2 week shutdown. Once production resumes at the end of July for all 3 makes, Saturn, Pontiac, and Opel the new numbers will be revised. Too many factors go into making production schedules and they are just guesses when made 6 months out. Parts availablity and production problems are never really known until actual production is under way.
My guess, Opel's will be the highest volume produced in 2006 (2007 model year). Followed by Pontiac and Saturn bringing up the rear. There are 4+ Pontiac dealers for every Saturn dealership, so Pontiac can move more units to customers. So, the ratio should be 5 to 3 to 1 (Opel, Pontiac, and Saturn) higher performance optioned cars. I would only expect to see 500 Redlines produced in 2006 (one per dealership). You would have a better chance getting a GXP version from Pontiac in 2006.
My guess, Opel's will be the highest volume produced in 2006 (2007 model year). Followed by Pontiac and Saturn bringing up the rear. There are 4+ Pontiac dealers for every Saturn dealership, so Pontiac can move more units to customers. So, the ratio should be 5 to 3 to 1 (Opel, Pontiac, and Saturn) higher performance optioned cars. I would only expect to see 500 Redlines produced in 2006 (one per dealership). You would have a better chance getting a GXP version from Pontiac in 2006.
Unfortunatelly that sounds reasonable... :banghead:Delnari said:Early numbers from December was that the production would produce 33,000 units (Saturns and Pontiacs) in the first 12 months of operation. This means up until the coming July 2 week shutdown. Once production resumes at the end of July for all 3 makes, Saturn, Pontiac, and Opel the new numbers will be revised. Too many factors go into making production schedules and they are just guesses when made 6 months out. Parts availablity and production problems are never really known until actual production is under way.
My guess, Opel's will be the highest volume produced in 2006 (2007 model year). Followed by Pontiac and Saturn bringing up the rear. There are 4+ Pontiac dealers for every Saturn dealership, so Pontiac can move more units to customers. So, the ratio should be 5 to 3 to 1 (Opel, Pontiac, and Saturn) higher performance optioned cars. I would only expect to see 500 Redlines produced in 2006 (one per dealership). You would have a better chance getting a GXP version from Pontiac in 2006.
:brentil: Since I'm #2 on the RedLine List, that puts me getting my RedLine around Spring of 07'... Oh well, more time to save for a BIG downpayment... :thumbs: Regards,
:willy: BA :willy:
Delnari -Delnari said:My guess, Opel's will be the highest volume produced in 2006 (2007 model year). Followed by Pontiac and Saturn bringing up the rear. There are 4+ Pontiac dealers for every Saturn dealership, so Pontiac can move more units to customers. So, the ratio should be 5 to 3 to 1 (Opel, Pontiac, and Saturn) higher performance optioned cars. I would only expect to see 500 Redlines produced in 2006 (one per dealership). You would have a better chance getting a GXP version from Pontiac in 2006.
Thanks for your input. Supposedly I'm first on the waiting list for a Sky Red Line here in San Diego, after having moved my $500 deposit from a regular Sky. (I was first on the waiting list for a regular Sky back in January 2005). Even if there's only one SRL per dealer, I still should be good to go. (Although I have to get over the lack of a usable trunk, but that's a topic for a different thread !) :thumbs:
Actually I think it should be GXP, Sky, Opel. Opel GT production is not supposed to be very high, only a couple thousand at most, maybe even as low as 1k.
SD at the SolForum has some very good calculations showing 6k~8k GXPs a year if I remember correctly. Which is about 33%.
SD at the SolForum has some very good calculations showing 6k~8k GXPs a year if I remember correctly. Which is about 33%.
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Well I would assume if there are going to be 10,000 Sky roadster in the world this year there would most likely be half that in Redlines...
5,000 Redlines sounds right to me...for someone to say any less just dosen't make money sense.
Either way a production of 5,000 would be higly limited...most dealerships are getting an average of 10 Skys or so...my dealership has had only 3 skys that have come in so far and I'm the forth. It has been a long wait for all of us...
5 Redlines per dealership? That would be nuts so I'm just forgetting the whole redline idea...I would rather bring my Sky to Saturn and just have them install the GM PERFORMANCE Turbo onto my Sky for $2-3,000 instead of waiting on my Redline and paying OUT OF CONTROL MARK UPS...THEY WILL MARK UP THE REDLINE BIGTIME! With the high demand of the Sky GM will likely take orders for turbos in the near future and I will be installing the Turbo perhaps next Summer on my Sky at the Saturn Dealership.
RedSky
Well I would assume if there are going to be 10,000 Sky roadster in the world this year there would most likely be half that in Redlines...
5,000 Redlines sounds right to me...for someone to say any less just dosen't make money sense.
Either way a production of 5,000 would be higly limited...most dealerships are getting an average of 10 Skys or so...my dealership has had only 3 skys that have come in so far and I'm the forth. It has been a long wait for all of us...
5 Redlines per dealership? That would be nuts so I'm just forgetting the whole redline idea...I would rather bring my Sky to Saturn and just have them install the GM PERFORMANCE Turbo onto my Sky for $2-3,000 instead of waiting on my Redline and paying OUT OF CONTROL MARK UPS...THEY WILL MARK UP THE REDLINE BIGTIME! With the high demand of the Sky GM will likely take orders for turbos in the near future and I will be installing the Turbo perhaps next Summer on my Sky at the Saturn Dealership.
RedSky
I also chose to forgo my regular SKY for the RedLine. I was #2 on the list for a regular one, so I should be #1 on the list for the RedLine.
hey bob so you are not getting the regular sky??? how long do you think you will have to wait for the redline:thumbs:drbob said:I also chose to forgo my regular SKY for the RedLine. I was #2 on the list for a regular one, so I should be #1 on the list for the RedLine.
Brentil,
Yes the Opel will be low production, but remember this is the intro launch of the Opel for 2007. The assmebly line will be busy producing mostly Opels in the second half of 2006. This is not to say GXP versions for Pontiac won't have good numbers though. Expect initial 2006 production of all 3 cars will be 7,000 - 9,000 by January 2007. If the 5-3-1 formula holds up; Opel gets over 5000 units, Pontiac get over 3000 units, and our redheaded stepchild Saturn gets about 1000 units.
One more advantage Pontiac gets over Saturn is the our GM Card earnings can be used to buy a GXP version. When will GM wake-up and make Saturn part of the GM family and extend these earnings to it's bastard child! :banghead:
Yes the Opel will be low production, but remember this is the intro launch of the Opel for 2007. The assmebly line will be busy producing mostly Opels in the second half of 2006. This is not to say GXP versions for Pontiac won't have good numbers though. Expect initial 2006 production of all 3 cars will be 7,000 - 9,000 by January 2007. If the 5-3-1 formula holds up; Opel gets over 5000 units, Pontiac get over 3000 units, and our redheaded stepchild Saturn gets about 1000 units.
One more advantage Pontiac gets over Saturn is the our GM Card earnings can be used to buy a GXP version. When will GM wake-up and make Saturn part of the GM family and extend these earnings to it's bastard child! :banghead:
Sounds like GM needs more production capacity or a way to ramp up production even more.:willy:
bentley said:hey bob so you are not getting the regular sky??? how long do you think you will have to wait for the redline:thumbs:
From what I understood from the dealer, if they got my order in when they got their next image (in a couple weeks) I would get my car by August. So by my thinking, It does not pay to be #2 on the list and everyone else is getting their cars first and because I wanted an automatic, I have to keep waiting. So I told the dealer to put me #1 on the list for the RedLine, it should show up in September/october. So I've been waiting long enough, I guess I can wait a little longer.
ok i was just wondering, because i know you were quite mad about what was going on.drbob said:From what I understood from the dealer, if they got my order in when they got their next image (in a couple weeks) I would get my car by August. So by my thinking, It does not pay to be #2 on the list and everyone else is getting their cars first and because I wanted an automatic, I have to keep waiting. So I told the dealer to put me #1 on the list for the RedLine, it should show up in September/october. So I've been waiting long enough, I guess I can wait a little longer.
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