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Did they do upgrades thru the years? I'm looking at a few 2007's. Wondering if I should try for an 08 or 09?

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N/A model or Turbo Redline model? There are a few changes that every mfg. makes in a new model year. The guys here know them all by heart. With the limited production run of 34K + depends on what your looking for, how much your willing to spend, what are the must haves, what you can live with out.

ChopTops thread on used Kappa's is always a good place to start shopping. You might find a good local used one, cheap in good shape, might have high miles on it though. Low mileage one's with all the bells and whistles might come at a higher price.

DD or 2nd car weekend fun-n-run car. I am not sure what the options list were from model year to model year, but there is one thing that comes with all Kappa models... one of these... permagrin.

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I want a non turbo, silver, dark gray interior, automatic. I prefer cloth seats. Reasonably low miles and in very, very good condition. No modifications.

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It is black to me...no one in the 12 yrs ever called it any other color...except you. Is it time for the opthamologist? :laugh:
Nope, it's black to me, too. It's black to Saturn and Pontiac in their literature and print books.

But I have heard a lot of people refer to it as dark grey, which is a lighter shade of BLACK.

Me, I'm partially color blind, a lot of things are "shades-of-grey". :rofl:

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Yea, technically in the real world of colors, very few parts of our cars are true black other than that "Piano black" bits of our interior and some stuff under the hood. Most of it is very dark shades of gray especially the seats.

I did my tulip panel in what plastidip calls anthracite with a black base and it matched the seats spot on. However, most will refer to our interior as "black".

Mera, check out some of the pictures of the car and you'll see what the color of our interior is. They all have the same color "black" but some cars have red or tan inserts in the seats and door panels. The ones with tan inserts also have tan tops. I don't think they ever did the tan interior with a black top but I don't know that for certain. Someone on here will. LOL

Cloth is going to be much harder to find. While I have seen a few, most of the cars I've seen were ordered with the optional "leather" interior. I use quotes because it's not genuine leather but it holds up great for a drop top car. Far better with less care than real leather would.

The rest is pretty common. Early build 2007s didn't have a door lock switch in the car so you can only unlock the doors with the key fob, inserting the key into the door, or pulling up on the lock nub/pin/switch (what the hell are those things called????). Later 2007s and up all have a proper door lock switch. Also, most 2007s do not have the power adjustable seat height. Not a big deal if you're tall but some shorter folks love it.

2007 NAs did not have traction control. I want to say 2008 it was optional and in 2009-10 it was standard. I always get this mixed up though because I know there was a transition to none to optional to standard but just don't know where those transitions exactly occurred for the Sky...I want to say it was even slightly different on the Solstices so I get them easily mixed up. All MY Redline models had Traction Control however.

2009s don't have the rear center twin cup holders...earlier models did. Some find them useless, I love them.
 

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Black it is. The wife would like the electric seat. Can that be added? Get one from a totaled newer Sky/Solstice? Would it bolt right in and maybe run one hot wire to it?

Where is the electric seat switch?

I do not want that mixed color interior. All black.

If it has no interior lock switch does it lock automatically when you start to drive it? If it does not lock automatically I can live without the interior lock button.
 

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I've looked on line at the options available for like the 2007 and the list seems fairly short. Most things were standard equipment. I can live without a limited slip differential etc. What ever radio it has is OK by me. No wing is probably better for me. Painted rims are OK.

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If it does not have that electric seat option is the seat then not height adjustable? If that is true I would be looking to add the electric seat if possible. I'm tall and my wife is short. How about front to back seat adjustment? Is that manual on all Sky's? Just the height is electric motor driven?

I do not need traction control. It will never get driven in the winter and seldom even in the rain. We will never abuse it. Just drive it.

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All cars with power locks (some were ordered without them) will unlock the doors when put into park (auto) or turned off (manual). They all lock automatically. The only value in my mind for the lock button is to easily unlock the doors in a manual transmission car when dropping someone off or picking them up.

All cars have manual fore-aft adjustment. The power feature is up-down only, and the switch is on the seat so it would be possible to add one.
 

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If it does not have that electric seat option is the seat then not height adjustable? If that is true I would be looking to add the electric seat if possible. I'm tall and my wife is short. How about front to back seat adjustment? Is that manual on all Sky's? Just the height is electric motor driven?

I do not need traction control. It will never get driven in the winter and seldom even in the rain. We will never abuse it. Just drive it.

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The electric front driver's seat is only height adjustable. Front-back is manual. There is no height adjustment without the electric option.

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Black it is. The wife would like the electric seat. Can that be added? Get one from a totaled newer Sky/Solstice? Would it bolt right in and maybe run one hot wire to it?

Where is the electric seat switch?

I do not want that mixed color interior. All black.

If it has no interior lock switch does it lock automatically when you start to drive it? If it does not lock automatically I can live without the interior lock button.
If it does not have that electric seat option is the seat then not height adjustable? If that is true I would be looking to add the electric seat if possible. I'm tall and my wife is short. How about front to back seat adjustment? Is that manual on all Sky's? Just the height is electric motor driven?

I do not need traction control. It will never get driven in the winter and seldom even in the rain. We will never abuse it. Just drive it.

Rodney
I want to say it can be added fairly easily (the plugs are there) but I'm not 100% sure. Something in the back of my head tells me it can. Here is the search result from Google of the different threads on here you can read to get a firm answer.

https://www.google.com/search?q=adding+power+adjustable+seat+height+to+saturn+sky+site:www.skyroadster.com&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip2qP4uPrVAhWC7oMKHSPTBP8QrQIINigEMAA&biw=1050&bih=1533

The back recline angle and front to rear position are both manual and yes are standard on all model years. Non-electric seat height seats did not have a height adjustment. The height of the non-adjustable height seats is the same as the lowest setting on the height adjustable seats.

There weren't many options in 2007 and you covered them all I believe other than top colors and interior colors...but we already determined all black is for you. :D
 

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I did some research and the electric seat is not that easy to install. Looks like you kinda need the whole seat. Not just the slider assembly. Plus they say you should have the factory wiring harness in there. How many wires does it take?? Seems just a 12 volt hot and at most ground wire. One can add them IMO? If the one I buy does not have it I'll probably live with it. I would maybe add some washers and raise the drivers seat just a little.

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I have the electric seat. The difference between up and down isn't very much. Don't let the lack of one stop you from buying the car.
 

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The back recline angle and front to rear position are both manual and yes are standard on all model years. Non-electric seat height seats did not have a height adjustment. The height of the non-adjustable height seats is the same as the lowest setting on the height adjustable seats.
Heavenly days!! Since I bought the '09 Coupe with electric seat, I still DID NOT realize there was a forward travel of a great deal of movement, forward and backward.

My wife had me convinced she could not drive the Coupe because she couldn't reach the accelerator pedal. Psst....she thinks I'm too particular with both cars and doesn't want to bruise either one or be blamed for such (could be right on that one). In addition, I bought the Coupe because it HAD an electric seat in hopes she could drive it. :- ((

THANKS, ROBO! A nice clear explanation finally sunk in with me. Here all this while, some 6 months, I actually thought the electric seat was only movement, up and down. The problem is solved and now we need to take it for some drives while I ride shotgun. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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I believe the tire monitoring system was added in 2008. in retrospect when I bought our 2nd Kappa I would have bought an 09 mainly because most of the bugs had been worked out of the platform, and features that were optional on earlier years may have been standard by 09.

Also, I know you want a 2.4, however I think you should consider a turbo (and a manual). The reason being that turbo's w/manual transmissions will more than likely be more desirable and therefore easier to sell when it comes time to do so.

Also, SKY's were considered a more upscale version of the Solstice and cost more than a like optioned Solstice. That still true when it comes to used values. When it comes to options most dealers loaded them up to make as much profit as possible.

Here's a couple examples from Hemmings, though they tend to be on the higher side because they cater to collectors and auto enthusiasts.
2007, 2.4, manual, silver, cloth seats, 7,200 Miles, $18,500 negotiable
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/saturn/sky/1816936.html#&gid=1&pid=11

2009, 2.4, Manual, One year only blue, 20,609 miles, $14,995
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/saturn/sky/1992085.html

I've been taking the summer off from posting high and low Skys, but I continue to stalk Craigslist on a daily basis. But once fall arrives I probably will start posting again. FWIW, I haven't been finding much of anything to post from Craigslist, but that might be due to Craigslist search parameters seem to change from time to time.
 

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My '07 NA does not have the wiring in place for the seat adjuster. It may be in the main harness, but I haven't had cause to look for it, so I don't know. The requirement is for one power wire and one ground, so it wouldn't be complicated, but a 20-amp source is not real easy to get, and the stock source is the underhood fuse block, so that isn't particularly easy to get to. The adjustable seat at its lowest actually seems a bit higher than the non-adjustable seat, but that is likely to be impression and not fact. I'll agree that lack of it shouldn't be a deal-breaker, even if you resort to carrying a cushion for the extra height.

Buying a car for resale value is just wrong in my opinion, if it means settling for or adapting to things you don't want. A manual transmission is generally better for back-country twisties, and I like doing the three-pedal dance, but even I wish for an auto sometimes in urban traffic. The RedLine will give you more power, but it will also give you a harsher ride and the need to run at least mid-grade fuel. In a manual car it also gives you a less-friendly clutch. All things considered I prefer to drive my NA, especially given its better handling on less-than-perfect roads, where the softer suspension helps it cope with uneven pavement.

Good luck in your search, buy what you like, and enjoy it as much as you can. And post pictures!
 
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