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Merry Christmas everyone

My present will be getting my car back from DDM in a week or so :):willy::thumbs:
 

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Happy festivus!

Saw one of those on that liberal MSNBC channel...
Taking Christ out of Christmas.. :willy:
Festivus is both a parody and a secular holiday celebrated on December 23 that serves as an alternative to participating in the pressures and commercialism of the Christmas season. It has been described as "the perfect secular theme for an all-inclusive December gathering".

Marry Christmas!
 

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Merry Christmas to y'all!
 

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The funny thing is, the MOST Festivus thing in Christmas, is the pagan-origination "Christmas" tree!
Even more interesting is the Winter Solstice was the day selected for the "celebration" of Christ's birth.

Now, one might say the Solstice is 21/22 December, not 25 December. However, at the time 25 December was chosen, they were still using the Julian calendar, which would have placed the Solstice (at the time the date was appointed) as 25 December.

Following that selection, as the Julian calendar was still used, the Solstice began to advance beyond December 25, but the date was set...so it remained the 25th of December divorced from the Solstice thereafter.

Then Pope Gregory came along, and fixed the offset (to keep the calendar aligned with the seasons a la solstices, introducing the Gregorian Calendar (that we use today). December 25 Gregorian was still the date chosen. However, since the Gregorian Calendar had to "reset" the days, the end state put the Solstice back at 21/22 December (Gregorian), with the 25th December remaining Christmas.

All that said, there are still some Christian groups that never adopted the Gregorian calendar, and have used the ever drifting Julian to this day. As of today, there is a 13 day offset. This is why some groups celebrate Christmas on Gregorian Jan 7...which (with their calendar) is Julian Dec 25th.
 

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I believe that is what throws off the Russian New Year too isn't it Bogie? My friend's GF celebrate the "New Year" on something like January 13th.
The Orthodox church in Russia still uses the Julian calendar. So their new year of 1 Jan (Julian) would fall on 13 Jan (Gregorian).
 

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It's not just Russia. It's an olde European thing. :agree:
When you boil it all down, the non-Catholic faiths just couldn't accept a calendar introduced by the Pope. Most of the Protestant faiths gave in and accepted it...with the Eastern Orthodox hanging on through today.

Not to be out witted, a new revised Julian Calendar was introduced that adjusts the days and accounts for the leap years. So the Orthodox don't need "no stink'n Gregorian" as they now have the Revised Julian.

Of interest, the Revised Julian has a leap day fix that is more accurate than the Gregorian. The first year where they diverge is the year 2800! That will be an interesting year indeed!
 

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The first year where they diverge is the year 2800! That will be an interesting year indeed!
It might be!but I don't have any plans for that year...:jester:
 

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Love that old English style. Here is how they communicated the change in new year and calendar adjustment (i.e., essentially moving from Julian to Gregorian). It's one sentence!!! I divided by semi-colon for those so inclined to read it.

In and throughout all his Majesty’s dominions and countries in Europe, Asia, Africa,and America, belonging or subject to the crown of Great Britain, the said supputation,according to which the year of our Lord beginneth on the twenty-fifth day of March,shall not be made use of from and after the last day of December one thousand seven hundred and fifty-one;

and that the first day of January next following the said last day of December shall be reckoned, taken, deemed, and accounted to be the first of the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty-two;

and the first day of January which shall happen next after the said first day of January one thousand seven hundred and fifty-two shall be reckoned, taken, deemed, and accounted to be the first day of the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty-three;

and so on from time to time the first day of January in every year which shall happen in time to come shall be reckoned, taken, deemed, and accounted to be the first day of the year, and that each new year shall accordingly commence and begin to be reckoned from the first day of every such month of January next preceding the twenty-fifth day of March on which such year would according to the present supputation have begun or commenced;

and that from and after the said first day of January one thousand seven hundred and fifty-two the several days of each month shall go on, and be reckoned and numbered in the same order, and the feast of Easter and other moveable feasts thereon depending shall be ascertained according to the same method, as they now are, until the second day of September in the said year one thousand seven hundred and fifty-two inclusive; and that the natural day next immediately following the said second day of September shall be called, reckoned, and accounted to be the fourteenth day of September, omitting for that time only the eleven intermediate nominal days of the common calendar;

and that the several natural days which shall follow and succeed next after the said fourteenth day of September shall be respectively called, reckoned, and numbered forwards in numerical order from the said fourteenth day of September, according to the order and succession of days now used in the present calendar;

and that all acts, deeds, writings,notes, and other instruments, of what nature or kind soever, whether ecclesiastical or civil, publick or private, which shall be made, executed, or signed upon or after the said first day of January one thousand seven hundred and fifty-two, shall bear date according to the said new method of supputation;

and that the two fixed terms of Saint Hilary and Saint Michael, in England, and the courts of great sessions in the counties palatine and in Wales, and also the courts of general quarter sessions and general sessions of the peace, and all other courts, of what nature or kind soever,whether civil, criminal, or ecclesiastical, and all meetings and assemblies of any bodies politick or corporate, either for the election of any officers or members thereof, or for any such officers entering upon the execution of their respective offices, or for any other purpose whatsoever, which by any law, statute, charter, custom, or usage within this kingdom, or within any other the dominions or countries subject or belonging to the crown of Great Britain, are to be holden and kept on any fixed or certain day of any month, or on any day depending upon the beginning or any certain day of any month(except such courts as are usually holden or kept with any fairs or marts), shall from time to time, from and after the said second day of September, be holden and kept upon or according to the same respective nominal days and times whereon or according to which the same are now to be holden, but which shall be computed according to the said new method of numbering and reckoning the days of the calendar as aforesaid, that is to say, eleven days sooner than the respective days whereon the same are now holden and kept, any law, statute, charter, custom, or usage to the contrary thereof in anywise notwithstanding.
 

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It really doesn't matter what day it is or how you celabrate. I wish you all much happiness and good health all year long.
 
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