Shop Manuals

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twirp

Discussion Starter · May 22, 2006 (Edited)

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bluesky835

· #2 · May 22, 2006

manuals

:banghead: :banghead: I haven't had any luck either on the shop manual, nor has my dealership been able to give me any info on the 6 cd player I had put in my Sky. Buyer beware, it does not forward to the next cd once it has played, but goes back to the beginning of the same cd. Was just at my dealer who now tells me it's a manual forwarding cd player. Would be interested to learn more about the cd player, but my salemand couldn't even tell me who manufactered the system. Any ideas?
:banghead:

skyorscooter

· #3 · May 22, 2006

I've been told that the manual that a dealerships garage will use is a limited run manual. Purchacing one may cost you BIG bucks, so be prepaird if that is what your looking for.

GMguy

· #4 · May 23, 2006

I assume that shop manuals are required after cars are delivered, since
mechanics will need them to perform service. I also assume that nowadays
those manuals are electronic at dealerships. Regradless, if the shop manual
is electronic, it's a simple thing to then publish on paper. Why not ask the local service manager what gives? He should certainly know.

rick112

· #5 · May 23, 2006

I have posted this question as well. It was some months ago. The only response at the time was wait till the car comes out. I've since talked with my dealers service department. They say the manuals are on CD at least here in Canada. Now that I'd love. A complete CD set of the manuals for my 2007 Sky.:thumbs:

ILVMYGT

· #6 · May 23, 2006

I was looking up a OBD II scan tool. The owners manual provided addresses for service publication. You might try writing them to find out the status of the SKY manuals.

Adistra Corperation
c/o Saturn Publications
101 Union Street
Post Office Box 1000
Plymouth, MI 48170

It was interesting that it is not Helm Publications.

JohnWR

· #7 · Sep 12, 2006

Helm lists a 2006 Solstice (M Platform) Service Manual Set for $135, which is the normal price for such a manual, and I am about to order one. I would expect the Sky and Solstice to be the same, at least electrically and mechanically, although clearly some of the body disassembly and instrument panel information would be useless.

Does anyone know what differences there would be between the 2006 Solstice and 2007 Sky ?

I would obviously prefer to have a 2007 Sky manual, but it doesn't seem to exist.

Also under 2006 Solstice, Helm lists a DVD Manual Set for $400, but it is not yet available. They don't list any Service Manuals for 2007 Sky or Solstice.

Pitcom

· #8 · Sep 28, 2006

My dealer told me the manual for the redline costs about 150 bucks.
Maybe one of us can buy one and share with the others or all chip in :lol:

JohnD

· #9 · Sep 28, 2006

Pitcom said:
My dealer told me the manual for the redline costs about 150 bucks.
Maybe one of us can buy one and share with the others or all chip in :lol:

I'm only guessing here, but as a software professional I would think that such an approach would be a violation of copyright, and therefore an illegal act that we cannot coordinate here on this forum.

Graysky

· #10 · Sep 28, 2006

jdigiant said:
I'm only guessing here, but as a software professional I would think that such an approach would be a violation of copyright, and therefore an illegal act that we cannot coordinate here on this forum.

As a publisher of copyrighted material:agree:

JohnWR

· #11 · Sep 28, 2006

Pitcom, is your dealer able to supply a manual ? If he can I'll buy one from him. Mine has no knowledge of a service manual available for sale. I don't have a RL, but I am expecting only one manual for both models.

I have put off buying the Sol manual, in hopes that a Sky manual will show up, but I will probably give in soon. I hate not having a service manual for anything I own.

Are you really balking at spending $150 for the manual for your $ 30,000 car ? The OE manual for my '97 Bravada is 4 inches thick (2 books, thin paper). The repro manual for a '93 Blazer is 8 inches thick, on printer paper. Both came from Helm, each cost under $150. How would you even share a manual, if a group got together and bought it ? I assume you were thinking about copying it, but you are talking about 2000 pages, both sides. That's a lot of time at the copier.

Pitcom

· #12 · Sep 28, 2006

JRinKY said:
Pitcom, is your dealer able to supply a manual ? If he can I'll buy one from him. Mine has no knowledge of a service manual available for sale. I don't have a RL, but I am expecting only one manual for both models.

I have put off buying the Sol manual, in hopes that a Sky manual will show up, but I will probably give in soon. I hate not having a service manual for anything I own.

Are you really balking at spending $150 for the manual for your $ 30,000 car ? The OE manual for my '97 Bravada is 4 inches thick (2 books, thin paper). The repro manual for a '93 Blazer is 8 inches thick, on printer paper. Both came from Helm, each cost under $150. How would you even share a manual, if a group got together and bought it ? I assume you were thinking about copying it, but you are talking about 2000 pages, both sides. That's a lot of time at the copier.

I'll give em a call and find out. And no I'm not balking at a 150 for a manual, was messing around.

marlboromike

· #13 · Sep 28, 2006

forget the manual guys/gals....get the CD disc...that is what u really want.

Ernest

· #14 · Sep 28, 2006 (Edited)

I was told by my parts/service managers that there is not a manual per se for the SKY, it is a computer program that in order to access it you have to have a modem? or something like that that costs severeal thousand dolllars in order to use it. Best bet will be aftermarket manuals, Chilton's etc., or like me have Tech's & Service managers etc as friends who get the information for me. It may be a couple of years before a factory manual is released, and then it will probably be a disc. The info is only available now thru Saturn dealers. I could be wrong though.

JohnWR

· #15 · Sep 28, 2006

Helm has a manual set for the 06 Sol, so I can't believe there will not be one for the Sky, unless the same manual is intende to be used for both. The vast majority should be the same, but I don't know if some significant detail may be different, which is why I am still hesitating with the purchase of one.

If anyone ( Ernest ? ) has a good technical contact, I would love to know how applicable the 06 Sol manual is to an 07 Sky.

Helm also lists, for "future availability" the 06 Sol on CD.

I have used the CD manuals, and I have used the paper ones. From my experience, the paper book is better. Maybe I'm just old, but I find it easier to use, and I don't have to worry about getting my computer greasy. Besides, the books are $135, and the CD (when available) is $ 400.

Chilton's, Haynes, et al are, in my opinion, of little value, especially compared to the factory manual. It seems that whenever I tried to use one, I would get to a point where it would say something like "Further work requires tools or knowledge not available to you." and there I would be. So I do not buy them any more.

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Ernest

· #16 · Sep 28, 2006

I will ask my Service Manager if the 06 Sol Manual can be applied to 07 SKYs. as the platform is the same.

Holly

· #17 · Sep 28, 2006

While there are some OEM publications supporting the Sky available, Shop Manuals are not yet among them.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/Result....dule=&mscsid=2SW8XW2V3QNX9GT9G9R7FAMX411E2DJ8

floridasky

· #18 · Sep 28, 2006

Here is the link to the Solstice. I would imagine the Sky will be out soon.
http://www.helminc.com/helm/Result....dule=&mscsid=3G70APXHRECJ8JQBN1QF1MQQR4HHFMA6

ILVMYGT

· #19 · Oct 3, 2006

Paper Manuals

Someone made a comment about the paper manuals are easier to use. I would agree. I have a CD manual for one car and it is not very easy to use or friendly. I ended up printing the sections I needed. I found tracing electrical schematics on the computer very hard to do. Given the choice I take the paper manual any day.:cheers:

Mark in INdiana

· #20 · Oct 3, 2006

Paper Manuals for me also.......

JRinKY said:
I have used the CD manuals, and I have used the paper ones. From my experience, the paper book is better. Maybe I'm just old, but I find it easier to use, and I don't have to worry about getting my computer greasy. Besides, the books are $135, and the CD (when available) is $ 400.

Chilton's, Haynes, et al are, in my opinion, of little value, especially compared to the factory manual. It seems that whenever I tried to use one, I would get to a point where it would say something like "Further work requires tools or knowledge not available to you." and there I would be. So I do not buy them any more.

:agree: :agree:

I buy the official GM paper manuals for all my cars and this is the only way to go. I once bought a Haynes but was so disappointed about the lack of detailed information on the specific car that I turned around and bought the official GM (Helm) manual set.

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