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Hello! I have been in love with these cars for years, but they've always been out of reach for me. I am 18 now, and I currently have a Pontiac Grand Prix that I am wanted to replace now. I found a Saturn Sky for sale, within my price range, but it has some dirty little secrets under its name. I am going to try and pursue it regardless of the issues that will be mentioned here, and I need advice and/or opinions.

It is a 2007 Saturn Sky base, and it's a soft top and silver. I love it. There is a catch though... it's been totaled. I ordered a carfax on it, and back in 2009 the car was totaled. It was obviously rebuilt, and continued to be driven for 8 more years. It has been through 6 owners (yikes!) and has about 100,000 miles on it. My father is leaning towards running far away from this thing, but I've rationalized with myself that since it's been driven so long it's gotta be fine. It also had a "minor to moderate" front end collision which a body shop repaired as well. The top looks good, interior, exterior, everything looks good. It's just "tainted" with the salvage title. I do not care about value, as I will drive it until the wheels fall off. Insurance won't be too bad based on quotes, but whether or not they'll insure this specific car is up to an inspection done by my insurance company. I also need to see if my bank/credit union will give me an auto loan for the car, which will be paid off within a year regardless of how long I finance it.

I really just need your all's opinions and advice. I know this is a gamble, I know it could put me through a lot of crap. I will get it inspected by a mechanic.
 

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Sorry it took so long to approve this. I've been having issues with accessing the forums and am the only one moderating actively. Hopefully someone will see this and be able to help you out.
 

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I have a totaled Sky that is as good as any other on the site. It runs perfectly and looks good. It depends on what you want to do with the car. I decided to make mine like new and put about 4K into it. I have a car that is virtually new from the windshield to the front bumper with a engine that had less than 100 miles on it. I had a total of 6K in the car, until we decided to have it wrapped.

100K on later model cars is not a terrible amount, just depends on how it was maintained during the 100K. How much are they asking for the car. I would guess around 4000 max.

Check the normal things, drive the car and see how it feels. Being a non turbo will help with the insurance I would think, but can not imagine an 18 year old in a sports car getting a good rate. Being a geezer has it benefits, but all of us would trade place with you. Hope it works out for you. These old geezers tell everyone the women flock after them because of their cars. Being 18 you may have to fight them off with a stick. lol
 

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6 owners and 100K on it...and u r 18....absolutely not. Our cars r fragile...GM made these cars with the cheapest materials....cost engineering. Because of your age, emotional buying is your enemy. Yes, this car is attractive...but so is your AGE. We all wish we were starting at 18 again. i REMEMBER MY FIRST CAR...it cost much in repairs...it wasn't worth the aggravation. Best of luck. Choose wisely. I believe a Go Fund Me account is in your future. LOL
 

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Get a good pre purchase inspection by a local mechanic who is familiar with these. If that checks out, go for it. 6 owners is a red flag to me, it could be previous owners dumping the car after finding a major hidden issue. The salvage title isnt necessarily a huge red flag in itself, but cause for some additional homework.

I bought a completely impractical car when I was 18 and would do it all over again. I drove it for about 5-6 years until someone hit it in a snowstorm and totaled it.
 

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Great car to cruise around in but for you using it as a daily driver would be totally impractical.
Can't really say whether you should buy the car or not but I just wanted to reply to this comment. You absolutely can drive this car everyday. Mine has been my daily driver for 4.5 years and 70,000 miles. I drive it 50 miles round trip to work M-F. To me having a small car is a plus. When people ask for a ride I just tell them sorry no room. Also nobody ever asks me to haul anything for them haha.
 
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Can't really say whether you should buy the car or not but I just wanted to reply to this comment. You absolutely can drive this car everyday. Mine has been my daily driver for 4.5 years and 70,000 miles. I drive it 50 miles round trip to work M-F. To me having a small car is a plus. W
Agree. They are no more delicate than any modern complicated car is and are pretty reliable.

Unless the price is really good and you are prepared to walk away of it does fail you in any major way, a wreck on title is always going to limit value. But if you get it checked out properly and they tell you it was fixed correctly, I could see doing it.

I went with my parents' recommendations when I needed a car to go to university and bought new. Two years later I bought my first old sports car (I still own it) and have owned 70+ since then. If I hadn't started down that road I probably wouldn't own my Solstice today. If it checks out go for it. Isn't that the advice you were looking for?). :wink:
 

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How much is it? Our cars are already crazy inexpensive, so it would need to be almost free before I would buy it with six previous owners, 100k miles, salvage title and no Redline.
 

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Pay no attention to grumpy

Our cars r fragile...GM made these cars with the cheapest materials....cost engineering.
These cars are NOT fragile. Nephew hit a dump truck broadside at 50mph in his little Solstice. Truck had ran a red light. He came out with some scratches, one broken ankle, and a chest bruise from the shoulder harness. Car was totaled as front end was totally shoved in. If he had been driving a Miata he wouldn't be around today.
 

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If you are new to this forum, look on the skyroadster.com forum and the solsticeforum.com for a thread by ChopTop. ChopTop posts almost on a weekly basis the nationwide craigslist.com SKY and Solstice cars for sale. The listing almost always gives a good perspective on the cars and their mileage, price, and particulars etc.. Look for that tread and study the postings of for sale cars. I believe you will quickly assess what is available and at what price you should be paying.

Now, when you find a car that you want to go look at, a valuable thread by RtE (Rob the Elder, Parker, CO), will give you all the important things you need to pay attention to on the car. I don't have the link to that list, but maybe someone else will post it here. If not, you can use the search and find the list. DON'T go look at a car until you have reviewed Rob's list. It will help you identify issues with the car, and put you in a bargaining position with the seller. Examples: has the water pump been changed depending on miles on the car?; are the fenders on a SKY not cracked from improper lifting?; and so forth. Then, if these issues are of discussion, what are the fix costs for proper sale price adjustment? You will find a water pump can cost $1000 to $1300, while a SKY fender can be $450 plus the paint match cost. ?? Knowing these things in advance can put you in a much better bargaining postiion.

Good luck in your search. :dthumbs:
 

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These cars are NOT fragile. Nephew hit a dump truck broadside at 50mph in his little Solstice. Truck had ran a red light. He came out with some scratches, one broken ankle, and a chest bruise from the shoulder harness. Car was totaled as front end was totally shoved in. If he had been driving a Miata he wouldn't be around today.
And your POINT???
 

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If you are new to this forum, look on the skyroadster.com forum and the solsticeforum.com for a thread by ChopTop. ChopTop posts almost on a weekly basis the nationwide craigslist.com SKY and Solstice cars for sale. The listing almost always gives a good perspective on the cars and their mileage, price, and particulars etc.. Look for that tread and study the postings of for sale cars. I believe you will quickly assess what is available and at what price you should be paying.

Now, when you find a car that you want to go look at, a valuable thread by RtE (Rob the Elder, Parker, CO), will give you all the important things you need to pay attention to on the car. I don't have the link to that list, but maybe someone else will post it here. If not, you can use the search and find the list. DON'T go look at a car until you have reviewed Rob's list. It will help you identify issues with the car, and put you in a bargaining position with the seller. Examples: has the water pump been changed depending on miles on the car?; are the fenders on a SKY not cracked from improper lifting?; and so forth. Then, if these issues are of discussion, what are the fix costs for proper sale price adjustment? You will find a water pump can cost $1000 to $1300, while a SKY fender can be $450 plus the paint match cost. ?? Knowing these things in advance can put you in a much better bargaining postiion.

Good luck in your search. :dthumbs:
Low priced Skys:

https://www.skyroadster.com/forums/f39/f-s-low-priced-skys-72881/index3.html
 

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It has been through 6 owners (yikes!) and has about 100,000 miles on it. My father is leaning towards running far away from this thing
You didn't mention price? It's not the salvage title that concerns me as much as why it's had so many owners. The first thing that come to mind when I see stuff like that is that the previous owner dumped off it's problems to the next owner. That's definitely a red flag to me.

I'm currently taking a break from posting Skys on my thread, low priced Skys for sale, but I continue to look at Sols and Skys on Craigslist on a daily basis. While one Sky was built for every two Sols, there's still plenty of them being advertised for sale. I would urge you look for the a car that is in the best condition that fits in your budget.
 

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What in the world are some of you guys smoking?

If your son came to you and laid out this plan to buy this car with all its issues AND the fact you can just take one other passenger and maybe a gallon of milk and then on top of it all he’s going to finance it, you would still tell your kid “Go ahead son, sounds like a great idea….”

I don’t think I could say that to him with a straight face…
 

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What in the world are some of you guys smoking?

If your son came to you and laid out this plan to buy this car with all its issues AND the fact you can just take one other passenger and maybe a gallon of milk and then on top of it all he’s going to finance it, you would still tell your kid “Go ahead son, sounds like a great idea….”

I don’t think I could say that to him with a straight face…
Were you ever a kid? My first car buy was heavily influenced by my dad. My second was against his opinion, and needed significant maintenance from time to time . Guess which one I fondly recall to this day? But no, that's not the kind of car I recommended to my boys.
 

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By fragile, he meant "not durable"... as in bad transmissions, bad electronics, bad water pumps, bad solenoids, bad door handles, bad remotes, etc. Hard to argue with that.
Actually I will argue with that, unless you want to paint every GM product as being equally fragile/not durable/unreliable.
The components and modules came from the GM parts bin, and are no more likely to fail in Kappas than in any of the rest of the models that they are used in.
Door handles may be a legitimate gripe, but are hardly a reason to condemn the cars as undependable.
Ditto with the Airbag PPS, especially since Robotech's push for a recall has been successful.

We get an inflated sense of problems because the enthusiast owners that have been on this forum report any problem or concern.
Considering that forum participation represents a handful (3 to 4%) of total vehicles produced, any data collected here is likely to be wildly skewed.
I know that many owners have experienced only minor problems, or none at all, so the actual failure rate may be 1 to 2%, or even less, of the total production.
I have two Kappas with a combined 180k miles that have had one failed solenoid and one failed PPS between them, and I don't consider either of those problems to be extraordinary especially since the PPS failure was in a car that had been wrecked.
 
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What in the world are some of you guys smoking?

If your son came to you and laid out this plan to buy this car with all its issues AND the fact you can just take one other passenger and maybe a gallon of milk and then on top of it all he’s going to finance it, you would still tell your kid “Go ahead son, sounds like a great idea….”

I don’t think I could say that to him with a straight face…
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By fragile, he meant "not durable"... as in bad transmissions, bad electronics, bad water pumps, bad solenoids, bad door handles, bad remotes, etc. Hard to argue with that.
Really, have not heard of many Trans issues, limited OEM electronic issues, Yeah the pumps can go but replacements seem to be reliable, door handle is a cheap easy fix, don't know about key fob issues,

I think these cars are as reliable as 05-10 model year vehicles.
 
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