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Discussion starter · #21 · (Edited)
But it worked.....almost,,,,I assumed the Audi used the same turbo, Does it not? Mechanical specs matched closely.
It uses a K04 but that info sheet lists three different "Versions" of it and they all are a little different than the one on the LNF.

Also, this is the turbo map being thrown around the Cobalt SS forum (Which is also an LNF powered car in 2009) and it looks very different from the turbo maps in that link.

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Which is why I ask the question. I don't know enough about turbo maps to make the call and hope someone else who knows more may offer some insight. Like I said in my first post, I'm still pretty new to this whole turbo thing too. I have some stuff down, but some stuff I'm still learning. Turbo maps are the latter.

What I DO know about turbo maps is you want to keep your boost output within the Turbo's efficiency range. That range is represented on the map by the complete "circles" in the mid area of the map.

I look at that map and think of it like a topography map where each line represents an elevation on a topographical map (and may be why they call it a map...who knows). You see how some lines are not complete and tend to run off the scale while there are two in the center which you can see are complete and make a continuous circle. These "elevations" are your Turbo's operating range.

I also know there is what is called a surge line and you want to stay on the "circle side" of that surge line. (If I remember correctly, the surge line is the very first line on the left of the plot area of the turbo's operating range and is darker in color than the rest of the lines...but it was a while ago I read this stuff so I'm not certain of this.)

Now there is a formula for figuring out...based on engine displacement and boost levels with possibly a few other variables...where in that map your current boost level falls. As a matter of fact, I'm going to need to figure out where my boost level falls within this map based on my engine displacement.

That said though, which map is right and are the maps different because the Audi uses smaller displacement engines (1.6 and 1.8L) than the LNF (2.0) or is there another reason? I thought a turbo map was for that turbo and the engine displacement only came into play when figuring out where on the map your current setup falls.

But like I said, I'm still new to this and am trying to figure this out as we go along in this thread too.
 
Oh crap, Robotech, I had you spotted as an expert that I could follow. Now you have cast me adrift.........:willy:
 
Playing catch up on our forum after a couple of weeks (where does the time go). What a great writeup Robo. I am glad that the demise of my turbo has helped to augment such a great article, that and I know you will breathe life into my old K04 some day. I wish I had cleaned up some of the dirt on the old parts now before you documented them so well! My new K04 is working great :)

This week my turn signal has stopped cancelling after completing a maneuver, and I have to manually terminate it. Once I get that annoying problem solved I might be giving you some more parts for another writeup!

(UPDATE: Already found articles via our forum on replacing or repairing the turn signal switch. Looks pretty easy :) )

Cheers
 
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Man I hope your woes are at an end. Thanks for the compliments. Had you not delivered it to me in pieces like you did I wouldn't have probably come up with this idea. :D
 
New turn signal installed this morning Robo, Found several good articles on our site and ended up using one one written by Marvic which helped me out. Tedious steps are pulling apart the dash trim but got it installed in a couple of hours, now as good as new :)

See ya soon
 
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How much of the dash do you need to take off? I need to do some under the dash work and would be nice to have someone who has done it before around.
 
How much of the dash do you need to take off? I need to do some under the dash work and would be nice to have someone who has done it before around.
Other than the top cover over the steering wheel, everything was below the wheel. Top cover is disconnected but never removed.

  • Removed 3 screws in the knee bolster under the steering wheel
  • Separated top and bottom trim covers around steering wheel (clipped together)
  • Lowered steering height adjustment lever
  • Dropped three "big" plastic pins down by the OBDII (mounted either side) port
  • Took two more screws out left and right of OBDII (but not the ones holding the OBDII in place), took the driver side plastic cover off, which is revealed when the door is open
  • Removed two more screws inside that cover so I could pull the ventilation portion of the dash down
  • Loosened, but did not remove, the two bolts holding the steering shaft to the upper dash (this gives a couple more millimeters and was needed!)
  • Released clips (top and bottom) holding turn signal unit in place
  • Pulled turn signal/lights control out (its still tight but can be done without damage), disconnecting the two electrical connectors in the back

This is Marvic's original post that I followed -->click here

TC's article on removing the dash to get to the stereo covers (excellently!) most of what I had stripped out to get to the turn signal -->click here

I can come down and assist when you wanna do this, making myself useful for a change in your garage :)
 
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LOL Jim, you're always useful. Yea I want to update my radio surround and maybe paint the center console where it is silver. Still debating.
 
Sorry to bump an old thread. The description in the first post is super useful, but the images seem to be gone. Robo, would you mind posting the images back up? Thanks!!
 
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Sorry to bump an old thread. The description in the first post is super useful, but the images seem to be gone. Robo, would you mind posting the images back up? Thanks!!
This is exactly the reason you bump an old thread.
@Administrator, the images are on the server if you copy and past the image links from the first post in this thread in a browser, you'll find them. I don't know why they're not displaying. I just copied and pasted the links to the images again and they're still coming up blank.
 
This is exactly the reason you bump an old thread.

@Administrator, the images are on the server if you copy and past the image links from the first post in this thread in a browser, you'll find them. I don't know why they're not displaying. I just copied and pasted the links to the images again and they're still coming up blank.
When I tried to view the first image in the first post directly, Firefox presented a warning page which said "Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.b17queenofthesky.com". I imagine the photo would have loaded if I accepted the risk, but I didn't take that chance.
 
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When I tried to view the first image in the first post directly, Firefox presented a warning page which said "Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.b17queenofthesky.com". I imagine the photo would have loaded if I accepted the risk, but I didn't take that chance.
I'm on firefox too and didn't get that. Any details on the threat?
 
Whoop, got it to generate the error and then explain it on the same page, captured it and saved it.

It's a certificate issue. Probably why the images are not displaying in the 1st message of this thread.


[url]http://www.b17queenofthesky.com[/url] works
[url]https://www.b17queenofthesky.com[/url] generates the error.


Sometimes I amaze myself.

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Whoop, got it to generate the error and then explain it on the same page, captured it and saved it.

It's a certificate issue. Probably why the images are not displaying in the 1st message of this thread.

B-17 Queen of the Sky Homepage works
https://www.b17queenofthesky.com generates the error.

Sometimes I amaze myself.

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Interesting. @skl8260, is this the same kind of message you get?

#DaveOC , that would make sense since I don't have a SSL cert for that server...never needed one since it was all public content. The URL to the images is an open (HTTP) connection so I don't know why the forum software would be trying to connect to them with an encrypted secure connection. That's odd. @Administrator, any input on this?

EDIT...god I really need to get in there and do some updating...LOL
 
Interesting. @skl8260, is this the same kind of message you get?

#DaveOC , that would make sense since I don't have a SSL cert for that server...never needed one since it was all public content. The URL to the images is an open (HTTP) connection so I don't know why the forum software would be trying to connect to them with an encrypted secure connection. That's odd. @Administrator, any input on this?

EDIT...god I really need to get in there and do some updating...LOL
When I left click on one of the broken image icons, I get nothing. If I right click, then click view image, the warning fills up my screen. I don't know whats going on. Perhaps the forum, which is maintaining a secure connection (https:) is requiring likewise of the sites it tries to do lookup at?

I haven't done much coding for the last several years, so am not up to snuff on current requirements when linking between sites.

Good luck.

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Interesting. @skl8260, is this the same kind of message you get?

#DaveOC , that would make sense since I don't have a SSL cert for that server...never needed one since it was all public content. The URL to the images is an open (HTTP) connection so I don't know why the forum software would be trying to connect to them with an encrypted secure connection. That's odd. @Administrator, any input on this?

EDIT...god I really need to get in there and do some updating...LOL
This is weird... When I try to view the post you are referring to from DaveOC, I can't find it. Also, when I log in on this page (#3), it doesn't show me as logged in. Page 2 doesn't either. When I visit page 1, everything is fine.

I'm not surprised about the SSL cert issue causing the image problem. Modern browsers (at least Chrome and FF) are forcing https so the forum software may be changing any non-secure links to secure ones. Any sites that can't deliver secure content will likely result in broken links within the forum.
 
asking for k04 turbo and stock one

thanks for your writting

but i couldn't understand whole thing you wrote cuz my English isn't that good.

so.. i have a question.

i need to change my turbo since the previous owner installed aftermarket turbo and it's broken.

k04 turbo on ebay is okay to install? cuz it's way cheaper than stock oem turbo..

i was going to buy k04 turbo but i saw the part number is different.

please answer if you guys know about this.. thanks!
 
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