I guess that I am developing a pet peeve. Why do they compare the Kappa to a crossover or SUV instead of a motorcycle? A lack of storage space seems to be the main complaint. How does the Kappa storage compare to saddle bags? How about comparing a convertible top to a rainsuit? It is more like, my god! I have to get out of the car instead of pushing a button to open the top. It is just way too much effort for my feeble body! It is killing me! The nonsense that is being thrown at these engineering marvels is upsetting. Then some @$$ states that after 125,000 miles or more that there was some minor deterioration happening as compared to his brand new overpriced whatever. How about looking at it from a safety perspective? Is a motorcycle safer than a Kappa?
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"Disinformation" is too strong a word, and implies that it is misleading in some significant way. More likely it is simply sloppy reporting. The LNF and LE5 engines both have had issues with timing chains, or more specifically the chain guides, wearing out prematurely, and the LEA engines may have the same issue. The reporter doesn't know the difference between chains and belts, but to the consumer it doesn't matter if it is a belt or a chain, the engine requires repair, and that is the point of the article.
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My opinion is that also implies an attempt to mislead as opposed to a failure on the part of the writer to understand what he is writing about.
Not that my opinion is any kind of absolute authority (even though it really should be).
I like to use Hanlon’s Razor: ‘Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by neglect.’
Although I generally substitute "incompetence" for "neglect", the principle in general gives me a slightly more positive outlook on most things.
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Well said John! I have just traded my 2008 XL1200 Custom for a 2008 Sky with 16,500 miles on it. My Harley had Corbin hard bags and taking a trip required creative planning and packing. The trunk in my “new”Sky seems enormous in comparison. It’s all about perspective......
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Just a general comment on 'press'. The print media are usually pretty good in terms of checking facts and analyzing cars first hand, so when they say something negative about a particular car, you file that away and see if you agree with them if you decide to check out that model in person.
The quality of journalism on the internet is far lower - anyone can regurgitate the opinions of others, usually adding some of their own, having never even set eyes on a particular car. And some of those seem to live to trash cars - seldom a good review. Caveat emptor applies!
There are a whole bunch of negative things that have been said about the Kappas and many of them are true. All cars have flaws. Whether or not the things you like about them outweigh the negatives determines whether you will own one or not.
The quality of journalism on the internet is far lower - anyone can regurgitate the opinions of others, usually adding some of their own, having never even set eyes on a particular car. And some of those seem to live to trash cars - seldom a good review. Caveat emptor applies!
There are a whole bunch of negative things that have been said about the Kappas and many of them are true. All cars have flaws. Whether or not the things you like about them outweigh the negatives determines whether you will own one or not.
Another talking head that doesn't know what he is talking about. Makes me wonder who he actually works for to spread incorrect information. These Sports Cars Were Technological Marvels... Now They're Nothing But Trouble
The Sky has .01% that could have been better in its cost class. Such as switch placements. But it is a technological wonder in many ways in it's cost and time frame. Better technology than vehicles many times its cost. And better technology than some cars still produced today. Highest horsepower per displacement of any production engine. Superior piston shape and combustion technology. Direct injection, stationary lash adjusters instead of reciprocating lifters. First car with body parts produced using hydroforming. Lightweight powder coated magnesium roof frame.
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So after reading actually scanning this article from another expert on our car,
I can't help but wonder what the author has as his daily driver of choice vehicle?
Bet it is not a sports car?
He does not list why in his opinion, the Sky is nothing but trouble now? In these comparison test going in, how much time with the car did he have to form his opinion for this evaluation? Has he ever been in the model before? 1 hour test drive, then form an opinion? A day long excursion from the laptop, that's it my mind is made up, this is a pos. A week end long drive up the coast, checking off many boxes when comparing it to...his sister's Miata or his wife's Honda SUV?
A 6 month long term over view, DD- work & play now I have a clearer picture of what GM had in mind here as an import fighter?
OR.. I have personally owned this model for 4 1/2 years, and from an owners perspective these are my thoughts to why this car is now nothing but trouble for me?
Looking at the models on his list of 10, I have to say imho that the Ruby Red is the best looking of the lot. Ferrari, Jag, Porsche, Vette, Stang & Camaro. Outside of the first Vette, all of these models have had previous generations, refinement or lack thereof. Our car is a one generational only model. What trouble would the Sky-Kappa be if it was say a 3rd gen model? Would it too then be on his list now? He uses this 09 N/A model for his choice.
He does not include our cousin the Solstice, nor did he test drive the performance models Redline/GXP/Coupe and or a Mallet V8 version.
Would his mind change then about our car? Who knows -who cares.
That would be nothing but trouble. Yeah for the crowd of endless Miata's or Honda SUV drivers out there.
Our Top-oh the inconvenience of having to manually put it up or down. Not that it is raining mind you. where in the Miata, you pull over, grab the top, pull it forward, latch it up, and hit the road again, I have to get out of the Sky, open the trunk get soaking wet, fit the placement pins, latch it, close the trunk, secure the buttress panels, then... get back in the car-oh the horror's of that, the world is going to hell in a hand basket. The trunk with the top down is so small, no room for SUV type luggage when going anywhere. The cup holder breaks, body panels crack when lifted improperly, the WP is weak, could go at any time, tick tock... but see this smile on my face after driving this car, it will stay plastered all over me for the rest of the afternoon here just say'n.
My co-workers here in our office are beginning to wonder why? He left before lunch in that nothing but trouble 09 Sky, now 2 hours later, he returns looking and feeling younger.
Hmmm, where are the keys to that Sky again, I wanna try this theory out for my self here. I wanna smile like that too.
I rest my case your honor. Form your own opinion as owner/operator, forget the non-owner media perception of click bait for my future employment, someone has to make those payments on the wife's Honda mini-van.
First thing the now ex-wife does after the divorce settlement is.. buys an 09 Sky Ruby Red. Spiteful. Nothing but trouble she was, but now she is all smiles and looking and feeling younger too imo. How ya doin there cutie. Sure I'll take a ride with you in your nothing but trouble car, maybe we can get to know one another better.
LAC
* Went to a small car show yesterday, about 10 minutes from my house here. Pretty cool, good mix of old & new. Talked to two owners- 69 Camaro Z28 Bumble Bee Yellow/Black paint job, and a 53 Merc with a new small block in it.
The crazy ass Willy's Jeep, with a 350 and 30 cal. gun, wide ass tires.
64 Ford Falcon with... a SVT motor stuffed in it.
55 Chevy 2 door Cruiser panel wagon. Red. Sweet.
36 Chevy P/U White, wood panel floors in the bed. Drooling happened for me here.
39-Ford Willy's Overland, Gangster style- two tone.
29-Ford P/U.
It was worth the hour long top down cruise for me. It was no trouble for me, might be for some out there, but they don't own our gem, they just form their own opinion and expect us to believe them that they are right. Sort like the local weather man's forecast.. going be sunny high near 80 with no chance of rain or wind. Low humidity cloudless skies you should be ok for today .. maybe then again it could be nothing but trouble for some car owners out there this afternoon.
LAC
I can't help but wonder what the author has as his daily driver of choice vehicle?
Bet it is not a sports car?
He does not list why in his opinion, the Sky is nothing but trouble now? In these comparison test going in, how much time with the car did he have to form his opinion for this evaluation? Has he ever been in the model before? 1 hour test drive, then form an opinion? A day long excursion from the laptop, that's it my mind is made up, this is a pos. A week end long drive up the coast, checking off many boxes when comparing it to...his sister's Miata or his wife's Honda SUV?
A 6 month long term over view, DD- work & play now I have a clearer picture of what GM had in mind here as an import fighter?
OR.. I have personally owned this model for 4 1/2 years, and from an owners perspective these are my thoughts to why this car is now nothing but trouble for me?
Looking at the models on his list of 10, I have to say imho that the Ruby Red is the best looking of the lot. Ferrari, Jag, Porsche, Vette, Stang & Camaro. Outside of the first Vette, all of these models have had previous generations, refinement or lack thereof. Our car is a one generational only model. What trouble would the Sky-Kappa be if it was say a 3rd gen model? Would it too then be on his list now? He uses this 09 N/A model for his choice.
He does not include our cousin the Solstice, nor did he test drive the performance models Redline/GXP/Coupe and or a Mallet V8 version.
Would his mind change then about our car? Who knows -who cares.
That would be nothing but trouble. Yeah for the crowd of endless Miata's or Honda SUV drivers out there.
Our Top-oh the inconvenience of having to manually put it up or down. Not that it is raining mind you. where in the Miata, you pull over, grab the top, pull it forward, latch it up, and hit the road again, I have to get out of the Sky, open the trunk get soaking wet, fit the placement pins, latch it, close the trunk, secure the buttress panels, then... get back in the car-oh the horror's of that, the world is going to hell in a hand basket. The trunk with the top down is so small, no room for SUV type luggage when going anywhere. The cup holder breaks, body panels crack when lifted improperly, the WP is weak, could go at any time, tick tock... but see this smile on my face after driving this car, it will stay plastered all over me for the rest of the afternoon here just say'n.
My co-workers here in our office are beginning to wonder why? He left before lunch in that nothing but trouble 09 Sky, now 2 hours later, he returns looking and feeling younger.
Hmmm, where are the keys to that Sky again, I wanna try this theory out for my self here. I wanna smile like that too.
I rest my case your honor. Form your own opinion as owner/operator, forget the non-owner media perception of click bait for my future employment, someone has to make those payments on the wife's Honda mini-van.
First thing the now ex-wife does after the divorce settlement is.. buys an 09 Sky Ruby Red. Spiteful. Nothing but trouble she was, but now she is all smiles and looking and feeling younger too imo. How ya doin there cutie. Sure I'll take a ride with you in your nothing but trouble car, maybe we can get to know one another better.
LAC
* Went to a small car show yesterday, about 10 minutes from my house here. Pretty cool, good mix of old & new. Talked to two owners- 69 Camaro Z28 Bumble Bee Yellow/Black paint job, and a 53 Merc with a new small block in it.
The crazy ass Willy's Jeep, with a 350 and 30 cal. gun, wide ass tires.
64 Ford Falcon with... a SVT motor stuffed in it.
55 Chevy 2 door Cruiser panel wagon. Red. Sweet.
36 Chevy P/U White, wood panel floors in the bed. Drooling happened for me here.
39-Ford Willy's Overland, Gangster style- two tone.
29-Ford P/U.
It was worth the hour long top down cruise for me. It was no trouble for me, might be for some out there, but they don't own our gem, they just form their own opinion and expect us to believe them that they are right. Sort like the local weather man's forecast.. going be sunny high near 80 with no chance of rain or wind. Low humidity cloudless skies you should be ok for today .. maybe then again it could be nothing but trouble for some car owners out there this afternoon.
LAC
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